The November Tsunami, and Coming Together

Maybe it's just me--I've not always been accused of being the most attentive person in the world--but it's sure starting to look like a lot of Republicans are so fed up with John McCain's duplicity they are going to actively undermine his campaign!

First this nugget:  Dick Cheney thinks the Gas Tax Holiday proposed by his party's presumptive nominee is a bad idea.  Of course, it's absolutely true--but in the past, being wrong has in no way deterred Republicans from getting in line behind something.  The mere fact that now, as the general election matchup is all but crystallized, Dick Cheney would come out so publicly against the man GWB vanquished in 2000 could be a very good sign that McCain will have a lot of back-watching to do with respect to his own party, let alone the national electorate.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/03 /cheney-knocks-mccains-gas_n_104825.html

Of course, that's not all--no less a neocon than Bill Kristol said today, at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, "There are actually no disputes of that nature...with the exception of Iraq this time. Obama's not for cutting the defense budget; Obama's not for pulling troops back from our forward positions around the world, with the exception of Iraq. Obama and McCain don't actually differ, at least on paper, even on Iran, where they're arguing about whether they would talk to [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad or not -- and I think that's an important dispute. Still, at the end of the day, Obama doesn't say he would rule out the use of force. McCain certainly is committed as he said this morning to trying to increase economic pressure on Iran, which Obama has also talked about."  This is a staggering admission on the part of Mr. Kristol, who will no doubt scramble in future columns to disassociate himself from his own quote, but he's essentially neutered John McCain's biggest angle of attack for the last week, vis a vis engagement with Iran.  Ah, I'm not too sure that's going to go over very well with the base, to put it mildly.  Actually, that may be the message Kristol is trying to send, that engagement with Iran is a losing proposition for Sen. McCain (in light of his own position) and should be abandoned in favor of something else.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02 /bill-kristol-at-aipac-oba_n_104799.html

On a totally different subject, we have a very serious problem here at MyDD.  The blog I've come to for years now is being overrun by McTrolls.  I know that Todd has posted, in blunt language, about the partisan nature of this--OUR--blog, and stipulated in no uncertain terms that advocating for John McCain will not be tolerated here.  I certainly hope he keeps his word, and fully expect to see a crackdown on a lot of the heated rhetoric I've seen in the last few days.  Certain, highly visible posters on this site--who I won't name but who we all know--have posted elsewhere glowingly about the attributes of Mr. McCain with respect to the general election and have tagged their entries "Democrats for McCain," (to list just one example).

I, for one, have absolutely no problem with even the most ardent Hillary Clinton supporters.  These are men and women I've worked with for years, canvassing, call-banking, sign-waving, and I welcome their differing viewpoints and have, on more than one occasion, engaged in very healthy and helpful conversation about the roles of race and gender in this nomination season.  The truth is, like our candidates, we are 95% (or more) agreed on all the major issues.  I've yet to meet, in my day to day life, a single Hillary Clinton supporter who has said they would vote for John McCain rather than Barack Obama (and, by the way, the same was true  in reverse).  I believe the vast majority of Hillary supporters fall into this group.

But not all.  There is a sub-sect of Hillary supporters who might be better described as "Obama haters."  This group of folks, in their opposition to Senator Obama, has co-opted the Hillary message and used it not just to further the virtue of their candidate but to sully the character of her opponent.  Even now, with the campaign's end in sight, they are pushing the worse kinds of innuendo about "Whitey" videos, engaging in vigorous character assassination, putatively to further the campaign of Hillary Clinton--but actually to drive a wedge between Democratic voters so they can defeat Barack Obama in the fall.  The list is long of folks here at MyDD who have stated they will vote for McCain rather than Obama in November--an admission that itself raises doubts about their motivations all along.  After all, MyDD is a deeply partisan blog, according to the stories that hit the front page.

I'm not suggesting there is a loyalty oath necessarily, nor that dissension in the ranks is not allowed; what I am saying is that, in my admittedly few years of political activism (1988 active in the process, paying attention since 1976) I haven't seen a massive insurgent campaign against our own nominee--and in any case, certainly not from the nominee who got the majority of "registered Democrat" voter votes.  If anything, you would expect the opposite to be true, that the outsider who failed to rustle up enough support for the nomination might, disillusioned with the process, decide to launch a third-party campaign, effectively derailing any and all future prospects with a party they felt would never hear their voice in the first place.

That most assuredly is NOT Hillary Clinton.

It is my hope that her supporters--true Democrats, in every sense of the word--will understand and appreciate the epic campaign we've seen waged in 2008.  I sincerely believe each candidate brought out the best--and, at times, the worst--in each other and our party is undoubtedly stronger as a consequence.  We have more registered Democrats than any time in our history, both in raw numbers and as a percentage of registered voters.  It would be a tragic mistake to squander so much good will, to turn on each other and undermine the very goal that both candidates have so vigorously contested these last six months, which is to put a Democratic President in the White House.

I, for one, stand ready to do everything in my power to see that happen.

I believe the vast majority of ardent Hillary Clinton supporters will as well--

--and that, in the coming weeks here at MyDD, we'll see true colors presented in some other cases, fraudulent McTrolls exposed, and that we have the strength and fortitude to reject and denounce those forces that seek to divide us, distract us, demoralize us, or in any other unanticipated way separate us from that goal.

From our goal.

From Hillary's goal.

From Barack's goal.

PS - I haven't forgotten Gore in 2000.  Pray any who consider not voting, or voting for Nader in 2008, or voting for McCain remember as well.



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Nice diary...I can't wait to crush McGaffe..


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:35:30 AM EST

this will not be a tsunami (none / 0)

for the white house. It will be as close as we've seen before Obama's inability to catch core constituencies is going to make it close. He will likely have gotten enough Clinton supporters back to maybe make it 50-49 or even 49-49 in November.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:37:30 AM EST

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Thanks for this diary.
I will support the Democratic candidate, presumably Obama at this point, because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.

"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:14:51 AM EST

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Barack Obama will not win in the GE, there was nothing so consistently expressed by Democratic voters all over the country as the sentiment that there was no way they would vote for someone so inexperienced and unqualified - they do not trust him to lead this country.

I don't trust him at all, and will never vote for him. Not after the hateful and underhanded campaign he has run against Hillary Clinton, a fiercely negative, sneering campaign of character assassination and race baiting innuendo. I refuse to assist in helping the corrupt Chicago voter fraud wing of the Democratic Party take over, to me that is like the dark side overwhelming the party I once loved. I fear what will happen to the country with corruption in charge of a major party.

I doubt I will continue to participate in MyDD after Barack Obama becomes the nominee, I have no interest in his losing campaign, but will be working to promote Hillary Clinton's next candidacy for whatever office she chooses to run for.

There is nothing left of interest here.


by 07rescue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:29:30 AM EST

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Yeah, all those pesky issues cease to matter once you're home again, and you've taken your ball with you.

If we do lose, I hope you're willing to fight and die in Iraq.  Too many of my friends and family have already gone or are about to.

They thank you for your passion and care regarding the issues of the day.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:37:22 AM EST
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Iran, (none / 0)

Obama has stated that he does not want to send any new troops to go to Iraq.

So it would be Iran, Korea, New Jersey or somewhere like that.

;)


Health Care: WHY do we pay MORE and GET LESS?
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by architek on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:30:57 AM EST
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Go to hell (none / 0)

I've had just about enough of people using my city, my home as a smear.


by zonk on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:17:45 AM EST
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troll (none / 0)

http://777denny.wordpress.com/

enough with your multiple usernames, dude.


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by annatopia on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:19:35 AM EST
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Yea, we will all miss the spineless corporatist republican-lite bunch of losers the Democratic party had devolved into under the Clintons. I'm looking forward to a new resurgent majority Democratic party sans lobbyists and fat cat influence peddlers under President Obama.

Buh Bye.


by hankg on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:12:32 AM EST
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Ditto 07rescue (none / 0)

I agree with you. I have not signed on to post anything in a while, mostly because of the kind of responses you received below.

I am mailing in my voter party registration change today... which is a sad day as I have been a CORE democrat from the time I was first eligible to vote 30 some years ago. I today become an Independent, choosing to leave a Party I do not recognize, a Party that is corrupt, has no problem calling some of their Party members "cheaters" while they cheated themselves, and really has no need for me or my vote any longer.

What this Primary election has taught me is that the Democratic Party leaders are no more democratic--- for the benefit of the people at large than a monarchy. Hillary Clinton had no chance from the gate on out... and the RBC showed their true hand last Saturday. I want no parts of this Party or its leaders as much as they no longer value my vote or value the democratic principles the Party is supposed to defend and represent. So like you, I will depart from MyDD shortly and go where there is fair and civil ADULT discourse like at TL.

BO will lose in the GE, if he even gets that far. And NO I am not suggesting any slanderous or threatening thing befall him, despite the Obamanuts who think anything not BO positive is a threat and racist and dirty. I am actually relieved to have made the decision to leave the Democratic Party. It is like a HUGE weight has been lifted. I am only grateful that my grandfather---a jewish immigrant who came to this country because he so wanted to be living in a free and safe society (he came from Russia in 1918, a journey that took him 3 long, difficult and dangerous years to make across Europe)--- to see what he Beloved Party has turned into. He would be ashamed, and disgusted.

07---You are right, there nothing left of interest here. I grieve at the thought that this Party has lost what is perhaps the opportunity to nominate one who I believe would have become one of the greatest Presidents in the United States in Hillary Clinton, for BO, a 1st term, 100+ days Senator with no resume, no experience, and NO credentials to lead this country. A very sad day indeed. I am thankful that I will not be a party to his GE run, and will not cast my vote to assist in this disaster of a candidate.

P.S... To those of you who cannot resist the name calling, and good riddence mantra, and troll labeling, and never was a Democrat anyway BS--- save it for someone who won't flick it off their shoulder the way your candidate flicked off a United States Senator and former First Lady who has done more in one year of her public service life than he will EVER do in his. I've already done my own flicking, and could care less anymore about what any of you insulting, offensive, vitriolic folks who call yourselves Democrats think or say. You have NO ONE to blame but yourselves and it will be a painful day when you look yourselves---each and every one of you---in the mirror. You won't like what you see. And it will come. It always does. It's called Karma...


Take it to the Convention! Hillary '08"
by JHL on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:17:19 AM EST
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